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Brandon Leibowitz from SEO Optimizers:

300 Podcast Appearances and a Bestselling Book: The SEO Strategy Nobody Else Is Running

Brandon Leibowitz

Owner

Company

SEO Optimizers

Location

Los Angeles, California, United States

Bio

Increase Your Organic (FREE) Traffic From Google Using SEO That Converts Into Sales & Leads! Since 2007, I have been helping websites rank higher on Google using SEO strategies. I have helped hundreds of websites rank for hyper-competitive keywords that convert into sales and leads. I received my Bachelor of Science in Business Marketing from California State University of Long Beach. My name is Brandon Leibowitz and I run and operate SEO Optimizers. We are a digital marketing company that focuses on helping small and medium-sized businesses get more online traffic, which in turn converts into clients, sales, leads, etc. I got my start in digital marketing in 2007 after graduating from college with a degree in Business Marketing. In my first job, I handled the marketing aspects of an e-commerce website. The company that I worked for was a national e-commerce brand that had recently built its website and was looking to bring more traffic to it. I had no idea what I was doing and neither did they. I spent a lot of my time reading books and joining digital marketing forums to learn as much as possible about this new type of marketing. I helped them with the following tasks: search engine optimization, email marketing campaigns, creating an affiliate program, optimizing paid ads on Google AdWords, setting up social media profiles, and a bit of web design. You could say that I wore a lot of hats working for this company.

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We have the experience and knowledge that is necessary to build your web site and increase your traffic by performing search engine optimization (SEO), search engine marketing (SEM), Pay Per Click (PPC), blogging, and social media marketing (SMM). We have built and successfully optimized multiple pages that have all received top search engine rankings. Remember increased traffic translates to increased profits for business. Do not procrastinate! Get us to work for you today!

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Actionable Takeaways

SEO Is Free Traffic — and Free Traffic Compounds:

Unlike paid ads that stop the moment you stop paying, SEO builds authority that compounds over time — ranking well on Google continues generating traffic, leads, and revenue long after the initial investment; this simple thesis is the foundation of everything Brandon has built over nearly 20 years.

Trust Takes Time — And Competition Determines How Much:

Google trusts Walmart and Amazon because of decades of signals — backlinks, mentions, content, engagement; a new website competing in those same categories has to build equivalent trust from scratch, which is why niche differentiation (a specific car model, a specific city, a specific specialty) dramatically accelerates results compared to broad competitive keywords.

Mentions Are the New Backlinks for AI Search:

Just as Google uses backlinks to assess authority, LLMs use mentions — the more times your brand or name appears across the web in relevant contexts (Reddit, Wikipedia, industry publications), the more likely AI engines are to surface you as a trustworthy result; this is GEO and AEO in practice, and it's fundamentally an extension of principles Google established in the 1990s.

Guest Podcasting Is an Underrated SEO Strategy Most People Miss:

When a podcast publishes an episode and includes your website URL in the show notes, that's a backlink from a trusted third-party domain — and most guests don't even check whether their URL was included; Brandon built 300+ podcast appearances specifically as an SEO strategy and wrote a book about the framework.

AI Content Requires Heavy Editing — Or It Becomes a Liability:

Using AI to generate content verbatim and posting it is actively dangerous — hallucinations, inaccuracies, and generic outputs create content that Google will not reward and that can damage your credibility; AI works best for outlines and first drafts that are then significantly personalized and edited by a human with domain knowledge.

The Slow Build Strategy Reduces Risk Dramatically:

Brandon kept his day job for 10 years while building SEO Optimizers on the side — when COVID wiped out his local business clients, the freelance base he'd built alongside his agency employment saved him; the slow, diversified approach to building a business is not just safer, it's more resilient when markets shift.

Niche Down to Rank Up Faster:

The fastest path to SEO results is narrowing your target — the more specific your keyword focus (a particular car model vs. "car leasing," a postpartum service in Torrance vs. "postpartum care"), the fewer competitors you face and the faster you build the relative trust needed to rank; broad keyword ambitions create long timelines and expensive link-building requirements.

Long-Term Clients Are the Business Model:

Reaching the first page of Google is not the end — competitors are actively trying to outrank you at the same time; the most sustainable agency model is one built on long-term maintenance relationships, not one-time projects, because rankings require ongoing work to sustain once achieved.

Conversation Highlights

Brandon Leibowitz, owner of SEO Optimizers, has spent nearly 20 years proving a simple thesis: SEO is free traffic, and free traffic compounds. Starting as an accidental SEO practitioner in 2007, Brandon built his agency slowly and deliberately — keeping a day job for 10 years while building his client base, surviving COVID by maintaining a diversified portfolio, and developing a guest podcasting strategy that led to 300+ appearances and a new Amazon bestselling book. In this episode, he delivers a grounded, practitioner-level breakdown of what SEO actually requires in the AI era — why the fundamentals haven’t changed even as GEO and AEO dominate the conversation, and why mentions are the new backlinks for LLM visibility.

Topics Discussed

  • Brandon’s origin story: business marketing degree 2007 → accidental SEO job → the free traffic insight → 10 years building alongside a day job → full-time agency
  • COVID lesson: local clients dried up entirely; diversification into e-commerce saved the business
  • Client focus: local businesses and e-commerce; avoids hyper-competitive generic keyword battles
  • Why competition drives everything in SEO: more competitive keywords = more time to rank = more trust required
  • How Google’s trust model works: they trust Walmart and Amazon — building equivalent authority takes time or significant investment
  • Case study: 25-year-old car leasing website with built-in authority — cleaned code, built make/model-specific pages, hit first page in a month
  • Backlinks are 60-70% of the work: guest blogging, competitor backlink analysis, cold outreach, building relationships
  • Guest podcasting as a backlink and SEO strategy — 300+ podcast appearances over the past few years
  • Why podcast host pages are underrated backlink sources — and how to ensure your URL always appears
  • New book: “The Power of Guest Podcasting” (Amazon bestseller first week) — available by searching “Guest podcasting” on Amazon
  • AI’s impact on SEO: fundamentals unchanged; mentions are now trust signals for LLMs just as backlinks are for Google
  • GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) and AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) — same best practices as traditional FAQs
  • AI content: use for outlines and first drafts, edit heavily, never post verbatim — hallucinations are a real risk
  • Google’s position: AI vs. human content doesn’t matter if it’s accurate and high quality
  • 5 core team members + US-based human writers + international help for tedious outreach tasks
  • Long-term client relationships: some clients have been with Brandon for 8 years
  • Website: seooptimizers.com/gift — free resources, classes, SEO audit booking
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